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Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 11 @ 7:14 AM ET
Ty Anderson: A season-changing win over Montreal?
BernieKorch
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shoey, PA
Joined: 07.24.2012

Dec 11 @ 7:22 AM ET
i haven't read your blog yet but..... Did Bruins Found? Season changing win? huh?
Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:00 AM ET
Ty man,

C. Miller, K. Miller, Trotman, Joe Morrow.

What happens. We've seen about a dozen games + for each of them. Do we have any idea what happens with them?
CaptBubba
Boston Bruins
Location: Winthrop, MA
Joined: 09.23.2007

Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
The only thing that gives me pause about the victory is that it might enable Claude to continue to use the D lines he had out there instead of continually mixing it up as he has been doing all season. I'm guess the answer to why he's sitting Colin Miller would be "It's called coaching" but the first 45 or so minutes of that game was pretty mediocre-at-best and, if not for Tuukka, could have been an unmitigated 3 or 4 to zero disaster. I like Kevan Miller and Adam McQuaid as third pairing guys, but I feel they're too similar in their (plodding) styles to warrant having both in the mix and one (or both) of them migrating into the top 4. C. Miller (and Morrow, really) have the mobility to carry the puck through Montreal's forecheck and if Tuukka is going to play like that, I feel risking their mistakes for them to grow comfortable and confident doing that is worth it.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
Ty Anderson: A season-changing win over Montreal?
- tyanderson

Calm down
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Dec 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
Ty man,

C. Miller, K. Miller, Trotman, Joe Morrow.

What happens. We've seen about a dozen games + for each of them. Do we have any idea what happens with them?

- Videoj


Keeper, Dumpster, Keeper, TBD

I think they should loosen up the leash on Chiller, I wanna see what he can do. Hes got the tools and his possession numbers are the best on the team for D.

Kevin Miller sucks

I think Trotmans a solid 2nd pair stay at home guy who could still developed into something more over time (basically could be the next boychuk if we're patient)

I'd like to see Morrow play more, I actually think he and Trotman would make a nice pair, but its hard to say how good he really is. He had a quiet night but his breakout passes were some of the best I've seen from anyone all season
Johnson377
Boston Bruins
Joined: 11.25.2011

Dec 11 @ 4:42 PM ET
Colin Miller needs to be back in there, especially against a team like Montreal. He has the speed to match the Montreal forwards. I really liked Kevin Miller last year but this year he has been terrible. I like pairing McQuaid with Krug. Something like Chara/C. Miller, Seidenberg/Trotman and McQuaid/Krug would be the best right now.

But still a big win for the Bruins
Willspencer10
Boston Bruins
Joined: 04.02.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:32 PM ET
Keeper, Dumpster, Keeper, TBD

I think they should loosen up the leash on Chiller, I wanna see what he can do. Hes got the tools and his possession numbers are the best on the team for D.

Kevin Miller sucks

I think Trotmans a solid 2nd pair stay at home guy who could still developed into something more over time (basically could be the next boychuk if we're patient)

I'd like to see Morrow play more, I actually think he and Trotman would make a nice pair, but its hard to say how good he really is. He had a quiet night but his breakout passes were some of the best I've seen from anyone all season

- Shaundre93


Yeah, tough break for Morrow being a left-shot. Short of an injury, not likely to play many games with Chara, Seids, Krug down the left side of each pairing. By the end of the season they're gonna have to make some decisions with him (and the D core in general), hopefully he gets a chance to play before that happens.

C.Miller should be playing, either here or Providence. I think we all agree he's done with the AHL, so find a spot for him here every night. Doesn't do him any good to sit out.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:29 PM ET
Yeah, tough break for Morrow being a left-shot. Short of an injury, not likely to play many games with Chara, Seids, Krug down the left side of each pairing. By the end of the season they're gonna have to make some decisions with him (and the D core in general), hopefully he gets a chance to play before that happens.

C.Miller should be playing, either here or Providence. I think we all agree he's done with the AHL, so find a spot for him here every night. Doesn't do him any good to sit out.

- Willspencer10


The classic, "play to win now? Or play for the future?"

Seidenberg may be he best option to win as many games today. "May be......"

But, Joe Morrow may be the best option a year from now. "With experience playing now."

The intersection of trajectories. Seidenberg's is declining and Morrow's should be increasing.

Tough call and toughest on a coach that may be managing for his job.

Side note: Basketball is so hard to watch with the silly fouls. In the NHL it's a nag. In the NBA it's pathetic to the point of unwatchable.
Thornton22
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 09.23.2011

Dec 11 @ 11:16 PM ET
Keeper, Dumpster, Keeper, TBD

I think they should loosen up the leash on Chiller, I wanna see what he can do. Hes got the tools and his possession numbers are the best on the team for D.

Kevin Miller sucks

I think Trotmans a solid 2nd pair stay at home guy who could still developed into something more over time (basically could be the next boychuk if we're patient)

I'd like to see Morrow play more, I actually think he and Trotman would make a nice pair, but its hard to say how good he really is. He had a quiet night but his breakout passes were some of the best I've seen from anyone all season

- Shaundre93


Lol. Holy poop man! Have you watched Trotman play this year? He is a train wreck out there, I cringe when he has the puck. Panics, make dumb passes all the time and the only way he could be another Boychuk is if he legally changed his name to Boychuk.
Big Kevan is prone to mistakes but he doesn't panic and is a far more stable dman. Agree on seeing Morrow more though.
Trotman just isn't ready for fulltime service...yet. He will get there, just not now.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Dec 11 @ 11:35 PM ET
Lol. Holy poop man! Have you watched Trotman play this year? He is a train wreck out there, I cringe when he has the puck. Panics, make dumb passes all the time and the only way he could be another Boychuk is if he legally changed his name to Boychuk.
Big Kevan is prone to mistakes but he doesn't panic and is a far more stable dman. Agree on seeing Morrow more though.
Trotman just isn't ready for fulltime service...yet. He will get there, just not now.

- Thornton22


Trotman has had the deer in the headlights look a few times, but the same was true for C. Millers first few games. They scratch him and he comes back looking okay before he gets injured.

I know my opinion isn't worth a thing. But all of the younger guys, morrow, c. Miller, and Trotman haven't been given enough games to really have any idea what they are "right now" never mind in a season or two.

Plus, the whole idea of scratching them here and there may really "mess" with there confidence, especially with a D-first coach like CJ.

I just think the verdict is still out on all three of them. Trotman was solid when dougie was hurt the last bit of last season. Most people on this board had him as a shoe in for the Chara replacement partner.

Not saying you are wrong either.

27 games in and we really have no idea who has taken a jump and "earned" there spot. Ugh......

McQuaid and K. Miller have proven to be turnover/icing machines this year. Seidenberg has shown flashes of his old self but still seems to be a step or two behind. Chara is clearly aging and turns the puck over, but still makes more positive plays then bad ones. And Krug just seems too small to handle the "elite" top end talent, it's going to wear him down over the whole regular season.

The kids......they turn the puck over too much, but you can see strength in all three. Experience is invaluable.
Thornton22
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 09.23.2011

Dec 12 @ 1:36 AM ET
Trotman has had the deer in the headlights look a few times, but the same was true for C. Millers first few games. They scratch him and he comes back looking okay before he gets injured.

I know my opinion isn't worth a thing. But all of the younger guys, morrow, c. Miller, and Trotman haven't been given enough games to really have any idea what they are "right now" never mind in a season or two.

Plus, the whole idea of scratching them here and there may really "mess" with there confidence, especially with a D-first coach like CJ.

I just think the verdict is still out on all three of them. Trotman was solid when dougie was hurt the last bit of last season. Most people on this board had him as a shoe in for the Chara replacement partner.

Not saying you are wrong either.

27 games in and we really have no idea who has taken a jump and "earned" there spot. Ugh......

McQuaid and K. Miller have proven to be turnover/icing machines this year. Seidenberg has shown flashes of his old self but still seems to be a step or two behind. Chara is clearly aging and turns the puck over, but still makes more positive plays then bad ones. And Krug just seems too small to handle the "elite" top end talent, it's going to wear him down over the whole regular season.

The kids......they turn the puck over too much, but you can see strength in all three. Experience is invaluable.

- JIwasinskiJr


I may have been a little rough on you. Sorry.
Trotman needs more seasoning.
I completely agree with you on the kids being scratched repeatedly. CJ needs to pick the D and live with it for a say 5 games or so, then switch it up if it doesn't work. CMiller needs to stay up and cycle Trotman and Morrow if need be.

P.s. Your opinion matters.
Thornton22
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 09.23.2011

Dec 12 @ 1:47 AM ET
D should be in my humble opinion.
Chara, Seids, McQuaid, Millers, Krug.
Gives us size, Toughness, speed in Krug n C Miller.
If Kevan struggles, bring Morrow or Trotman but give them some games to make mistakes and not play one off one etc.
When Kevan is out of lineup, Randell better be in.
ProvBrewin
Boston Bruins
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 08.23.2014

Dec 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
I've actually been pleasantly surprised with Quaider this year. He's been our most reliable defensive d-man so far, and hasnt gotten injured yet! I've had the opinion that Chara wasn't going to show his age as bad as everyone seemed to think he would, but boy, he's looked pretty rough (compared to the usual Chara). I think they desperately need to cut his minutes down.

As far as the young guys go, Trotman seems like the odd man out to me. C-Mills has shown a lot of promise and seems like he just needs to bulk up and get a bit stronger. I've liked Morrow's game since the first time he was called up and still don't understand how/why he's always the one getting scratched. His break out passes are slick, and he doesn't seem to be that bad in his own end. Trotman doesn't seem to do any of those things as good as the other two.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE tough players that can bring it, but K-Mills needs to be sitting out. It's becoming way to common for him to fall on his arse, be out of position, give the puck away, lose a step against the oposition, or (and this one kills me) not know what the hell he's doing with the puck on the breakout. Watching him play makes me cringe.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Dec 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
I may have been a little rough on you. Sorry.
Trotman needs more seasoning.
I completely agree with you on the kids being scratched repeatedly. CJ needs to pick the D and live with it for a say 5 games or so, then switch it up if it doesn't work. CMiller needs to stay up and cycle Trotman and Morrow if need be.

P.s. Your opinion matters.

- Thornton22




It wasn't even my comment you jumped on. I was just try to help the other guy out.

Still, we are very little better off, "evaluation wise", from the start of the season in understanding who will be the guys "next season." And it sucks a third into the season.

We see one of the guys stand out for a few games, and then look silly for a couple........I've just taken the viewpoint that these rooks are going to look like that, it's part of growth.

And with the turnovers by Chara and icings/turnover by Quaider and K. Miller I just can't be pissed at the young guys for making silly mistakes the "stay at home" guys do every game.
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Dec 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
I may have been a little rough on you. Sorry.
Trotman needs more seasoning.
I completely agree with you on the kids being scratched repeatedly. CJ needs to pick the D and live with it for a say 5 games or so, then switch it up if it doesn't work. CMiller needs to stay up and cycle Trotman and Morrow if need be.

P.s. Your opinion matters.

- Thornton22


Apparently we have the exact opposite opinions on the two haha. As far as Trotman... Boychuk wasn't an NHLer till he was 25. I see a lot of similarities in their style of play (simple, but not McQuaid icing the puck constantly simple) and the way they've been developed (slowly, but always growing/improving). I don't think he's done improving but obviously I have no idea how good he'll actually get.

I just can't get on board with Miller though. Guy makes me cringe every time he steps on the ice
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Dec 12 @ 1:48 PM ET
Apparently we have the exact opposite opinions on the two haha. As far as Trotman... Boychuk wasn't an NHLer till he was 25. I see a lot of similarities in their style of play (simple, but not McQuaid icing the puck constantly simple) and the way they've been developed (slowly, but always growing/improving). I don't think he's done improving but obviously I have no idea how good he'll actually get.

I just can't get on board with Miller though. Guy makes me cringe every time he steps on the ice

- Shaundre93


I tend to agree on the Trotman assessment. He is a big strong guy, has some skating ability (better than Chara or Seidenberg, but not Morrow or C. Miller), has a pretty good shot that can get through traffic and he has some pretty good vision of the ice in all three zones.

That's a Johnny Rocket type player......not as hard a shot, and not the huge hip checks........but a Boychuk/Seidenberg type.

With all these guys, we get excited about one and then they scratch them. And K. Miller is a McQuaid replacement.........oh.....wait.......we have Quaider locked up longer than any of the other D man on the team?..... (Didn't mean to rehash...ugh)